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merveille123merveille123 on June 19th, 2012 12:50 pm (UTC)
So typical for them to wriggle out of the whole Ricardo affair.

I want some catty Else, Charlie, Clarissa scenes when they fret over Arno.

Not sure what to think of Seb's story. I'm sure nothing of consequence will come of it though.
Lugia: charlie4lugia on June 19th, 2012 12:59 pm (UTC)
"legt sie sich mit Christian auf die Lauer" - LOL, very Leo/Rebecca when they were snooping after Maria. It can almost not get any more childish with their letter business.

Wouldn't Ricardo giving up his doctor profession be the coward's way out? I could only see them doing a story where that wasn't his "calling" in the first place. Or that his job is too far up in the hierarchy, he has nothing to evolve to, so they need to open new story potentials. But who will inhabitate the set? Will they tear it down? Bella as a nurse? Or just his "exit" story since he's seemingly been on vacation for months. Kinda like Olli losing his set and just going away for awhile.

I can't believe they're repeating the Seb/panic-attacks-after-kidnapping storyline.

Some stuff even sounds like they're trying (Clarissa vs Seb, Arno/Timo), but overall I think it's useless. Maybe I've already moved on too much? I found it REALLY hard to stay with the show when I read the spoilers that Chrolli would get together, and after that no storyline for a year. I watched it anyway, but it would still feel like "coming back" if Olli got something else or bigger now, i.e. far too late to still call it "I waited" - it had rather turned into "I quit" by January. Took until autumn for things to look up (Thore leaving, Bella for him, Emilio's, whatever). Kind of amazing that I didn't like *anything* after the summer flatshare. Maybe Charlie/Frank for a fleeting moment. I wish they'd never taken TanSeb for another round or created Marbecca. Such a drag! And now Dagen 2.0 is too boring too and Jessica feels too schizo.

The ratings are miraculously up after soccer is over (7,3).
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on June 19th, 2012 01:54 pm (UTC)
Was there no soccer against it this time? Then that's still pretty low compared to pre-soccer times. Should it be more like 8s, maybe a 9something when they are lucky?
fromandre: Olli lightfromandre on June 19th, 2012 02:03 pm (UTC)
7,3 is still ridiculously low, but it looks like Brisant's ratings vent up with longer screen-time and Grossstadtsrevier is also doing much better now.
Lugia: charlie4lugia on June 19th, 2012 02:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah, more like 8 I guess. But they seemed to "einpendeln" at 7 because of Unter Uns/the earlier timeslot when people are still at work. Which should all change now that it's back at 6pm. Hmm.

Soccer was only at 6pm during the group phase, all games from now on will be at 8.45pm, so long after VL.
pm87pm87 on June 19th, 2012 03:22 pm (UTC)
lol I suppose Marlene is becoming hate role No.1 and imo it's quite possible , that she will 'infect' other roles in her SL as well - Rebecca, Christian, Tristan
it seems the comments to this SL are getting worse and worse
Lugia: calendar4lugia on June 19th, 2012 04:12 pm (UTC)
Yes, but I'm still puzzled why I had the same kneejerk reaction when I first heard about it. Just instant dislike. It's like back when almost everyone hated Jessica when she joined. Just a wrong "move" somehow.

OK, you'd expect the big stories to attract hateful comments anyway because of the overkill and the heroine always being "right". But I've really enjoyed the lesbian stories on VL and I never thought I would outright dislike one. Is it because the ladies aren't attractive? Because Marlene is sitting on the fence? Because it's Kaugummi? Because Marlene is lying WAY too much? Because Marlene/Tanja are two "cancers" of VL right now?

It's just odd to me that it's SO hated. IMO the story isn't even that big. IMO Phico was much more trying for my nerves, Marbecca are just "around". But I suppose it will get worse and worse because the story will go on for many more weeks (people were sick of it relatively early/saw no chemistry and "dropped" the storyline, so it will only get more frustrating when it stays and stays).

The horrible thing to me was knowing that the next lesbian storyline wouldn't happen for another few years, so this had better be good. And it was terrible. So from the beginning I was mostly just SAD.

And I could imitate the Chrolli fans now and say "don't diss it TOO much or they'll get the message to please drop LGBT stories for good".

I'm still most curious about the new headwriters. It's almost like they "dabble". Have some fun with their product (Arno's antics), which might rub off on the audience a little, but no clear vision. The main stories are all very formulaic and feel like alibi stuff (Dagen getting a baby), a necessary evil to them.

With VL getting more screentime and Bella joining, I suppose they HAVE to go back to a big GreLu dream couple (Bella). Just when it was starting to feel like a fresh soap again. :(
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on June 19th, 2012 08:23 pm (UTC)
I still think that Bella will be for Tristan and I still think it's kinda a bad decision if should they really go supercouple. I still think that he is still too odd seeming for your average soap watcher, he's better as an underdog. On the other hand, the new spoilers kinda make it seem like TanSeb will be around for a while, so maybe it will work if he doesn't have to "carry" the show the way GreLu did.
Lugia: calendar4lugia on June 19th, 2012 10:04 pm (UTC)
Doesn't the heroine kinda need to carry it anyway, have lots of BFF and talk-to persons? The way Julia or Marlene were/are failing right now or Helena became annoying during her accident storyline and Nico was likeable as the underdog? I mean to say that if the leading lady rocks, the rest is kinda irrelevant. ;) If she sucks, the whole storyline will not be enjoyable to watch.

But if Tanja will stay "one" leading lady, then chances are that the counterpart is a really one-dimensional, girly damsel. Marlene as the diva and Jessica as the bitch are 3 bitches in charge right now, they need the bland PC character.

I could almost see Bella as the schemer, maybe a sort of Sally Spectra opponent in the fashion world? Would they really give an "alien" looking redhead the leadrole? Depends how they style her, she could look stunning. But my money is on controversial and Tristan is too, so this would be an odd pairing (kinda like Antonia/Philipp and not "pure" enough).

Although I'm beginning to suspect that they think every character needs to be "assy" so he's at least interesting (like Hagen with his blood diamonds, Elswig, macho Thomas and the "slut couple" Jessiel).
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on June 19th, 2012 10:15 pm (UTC)
VL is not very creative, kinda like short hair = lesbian. So imo no way is a redhead going to be a little damsel. So I think schemer, diva or "modern girl" (like Sarah). She doesn't have the soft beautiful face of a damsel either, I think her features look kinda odd (like you said, alien).

Random: her boyfriend looks like a less pretty Hubertus Grimm.

I still think that JH probably picked her according to his personal tastes and that's why an odd girl got a chance. Or they picked her for her singing alone (though based on her website I think her voice doesn't seem all that impressive. Like, it's probably impressive if she can carry a tune live on stage, but on VL it's recorded anyway, so it has to sound good recorded).

I'm kinda hoping that by the time she arrives at least one of the divas might have been reduced in screen time. Though if they maybe go with some sort "Tristan sets Marlene free at the altar because he sees she loves Rebecca" then they would have to attach another arc of Marlene winning back Rebecca. Do we have an idea how long Vivian is going to stay?

I was just thinking, if Arno's new support team is now Charlie, Clarissa and Timonie, won't that make Jessica's friendship useless? Would Clarissa even let Jessica in considering she doesn't seem to like her much? So what was the point of it? (I'm slowly leaning towards Dagen / Jessiel maybe actually "staying nice" aka nothing will actually happen there). Of course eventually Jana's theater vacation should come up right?
Lugia: calendar4lugia on June 19th, 2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
WTF? I just read that Janina performed in my city a couple of times, like 1km away from my house?! I used to walk the distance! What's the connection? Nobody ever comes to our "village". Well "Pronto Salvatore" was there at the end of the 80s and people flipped out. Usually it's the next bigger town (Andreas Elsholz was there at the beginning of the 90s). Does she have anything to do with Mirja Boes (she's from my village)? I'm sorry I missed her! But I might have saved old newspapers from those performances in December? Or know people who went?

It's just so strange to me because I had my "Kinderchor" singing education in that building and know it inside and out, so I have a very good idea of what went down there. And it's nothing worthy of a proper actress/singer! ;) There was a book reading session a la Schneiders there when I was a student and that was already something to write home about...

Ein Chansonabend der besonderen Art

Dülken, Altes Waisenhaus, Eligiusplatz 2

Mittwoch, den 6. Juni 2007, Einlaß 19.00 Uhr

"Verdammt, ich lieb´ Dich"

mit Janina Isabell Batoly & Jens Uwe Fiebig

Benefizkonzert zugunsten des Vereins "Freunde von Kanew", Eintritt 10 Euro

Zusätzlich stellt der Dülkener Sammler Volkmar Hess einige Grammofone
aus seiner Sammlung aus und präsentiert ab 19.00 Uhr und in den Pausen
deutsche Chansons und Schellackschätzchen aus dem Bereich "Tanzbares"
der 30er und 40er Jahre.

Vorverkauf: Stadtspiegel Viersen, BIT Viersen, Lotto Coenen Dülken


Liebe Janina,

Du hast die Dülkener Herzen mit Deinem Auftritt am Freitag, den 16.12.2011 im Sturm erobert - Danke für die genialen Darbietungen. Herzlichst Gisela


Anyway, I know a couple of redheads who were used as sexy/quirky secretaries. Kinda like that character on Mad Men or Chloe on "24". Or those dumb AWZ stories where Sarah is just the "Putze" and then rises to dancing major league.

No idea about Vivian. Does she fall under those strict child actor regulations? I thought about Jana's theatre too and how that blocks things with Thore before he's in Berlin too. Maybe that's why they were so creative with Amsterdam and Paris/homestories while they still could? It would maybe not affect Jessica, but definitely all her weekend plans.
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on June 19th, 2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
I still think it would have been more fun if they would have given Tristan somebody more creative to date. Not another musical diva. Like a hardcore rock chick with dreadlocks and piercings. Or a chess champion/mathematician. Or generally something more unusual for a soap.